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Bible-Based Examples for Governing

Posted in agnoticism, Atheism, Atheist, belief, Bible, culture, faith, freethought, history, humanity, life, logic, politics, random, religion, thoughts, Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on August 28, 2009 by chouck017894

By biblical clues it was once determined that the murder of Abel by his brother Cain had occurred in 3875 BCE.  Interestingly, the first year of the Jewish calendar is set as beginning in 3760 BCE—a mere 115 years later.  The brief and incomplete list that follows here, taken from  “holy Bible” stories, make it dishearteningly clear that the respect for life was not especially a high priority of too many biblical characters.  Perhaps this was inspired by god’s indifference.

The Deluge, whipped up by god himself with the sole intention of obliterating the human species, supposedly occurred in 2348 BCE—1,527 years after Abel was slain.  Oddly, part of the Lord’s instruction to Noah after unleashing the killing deed upon the Earth was the admonishment that Noah and his progeny must, among other listed immoral acts, refrain from committing homicide.  A case of do as I say, not as I do.  As you scan over these brief highlights from biblical tales, remember that the definition of murder is the unconscionable killing of a human being.  Of course there had been no code of law established in Eden; an embarrassing oversight for an all-knowing Creator.

In the time of Abraham, the alleged progenitor of the Israelites, the Lord is said to have saved Abraham’s son Isaac from being sacrificed by Abraham in 1860 BCE.  Obviously any tradition handed down from the time of Noah 488 years earlier did not include the admonishment to refrain from taking another person’s life.

By the most commonly accepted calculations, Moses did not receive any announcement against homicide until c. 1491 BCE—or 369 years after Abraham’s attempted sacrifice of his son, and 2384 years after Abel’s untimely demise.  It might be said that the commandment “thou shalt not kill” was a case of too little too late.  Even with this commandment as counsel, good old Joshua, the god-favored successor to Moses, is portrayed as happily indulging himself in holocaustic slaughter of countless Canaanites.

Then there is the tale of Jephthah, a blustery Israelite who was called upon by the Israelite elders to head off a threatened Ammonite attack in 1143 BCE.  Jephthah swore that if he won in battle then “…whatsoever cometh forth out of the doors of my house to meet me…” I will then offer it up for a burnt offering (2 Judges).  Well, Jephthah won the battle.  His “honor” supposedly demanded the ritual murder of his daughter, for in her joy to see his safe return his daughter had rushed out to meet him.  Was it Jephthah’s fault or god’s indifference that caused the girl to be burned to death?  Even god seems to have ignored his own edict not to kill that he had handed down only 348 years before, for he did nothing to save the girl.

412 years after the commandment not to kill had been handed down, King Saul of Israel is said to have indulged himself in a swift war of extermination against the Amalekites in 1079 BCE in which, the boast goes, every man, woman, babe, and child were “utterly destroyed.”  This was poor press for the children of god, but was made even worse by King Saul’s pitiless “prophet,” Samuel, depicted as having savagely chopped the captured and defenseless Amalekite King Agag into mincemeat with a sword.  Samuel also contributed to Israel’s gory glory by then promoting David (1040-973? BCE) for the throne.  And ultimately, 23 years after Saul’s slaughter of Agag, David is said to have succeeded Saul as King of Israel.

David was a master of deceit, mendacity, and bloodshed, and he followed the traditional pattern of killing everyone among a conquered people, including women, babes, and children..  He even had people killed “…lest they should tell on us…” (1 Samuel 27:11).  David’s list of slaughters and atrocities are too many to present here, but his open disregard for the sixth commandment makes it questionable why god could ever have considered him a worthy founder of a royal dynasty or to be the protector of the Ark of the Covenant.  David is commonly excused under the pretext that he displayed unfailing devotion to Jehovah.  Say What? 

Elijah, c. 910 BCE, had the Phenician prophets of Baal put to death to prevent them from muscling in on his hold on the official religion in Israel.  The myth goes that after the slaughter of Baal priests, rain and dew which god had grudgingly withheld for three years finally fell.  Besides destroying the priests of Baal, Elijah also caused the destruction of two companies of fifty innocent messengers c. 852 BCE who had been sent to him by King Ahaziah of Israel.  The eager anticipation of this “holy” man’s return to Earth became incorporated in Christian myth as spiritually fulfilled in John the Baptist.

Elisha, c. 896 BCE, another typically short-tempered and irascible Israelite “prophet,” displayed his disregard for the sixth commandment in his encounter with 42 unruly children on the road to Bethel.  The young delinquents allegedly teased him about his bald head.  In angry retaliation, holy Elisha is said to have cursed the children in the name of the lord and immediately two bears appeared and ripped the children to pieces.  The weak excuse for the god-assisted murder of 42 children is that the “prophet’ was weary and agitated from his fifteen mile hike from Jericho.  Elisha was not weary, however, when he hatched the conspiracy to seize the throne of Israel and elevate Jehu, the last son of Joram, as king.

Jehu, appointed by god and anointed by the “prophet” Elisha as king of Israel (c. 843? BCE), lost little time in setting out to exterminate his predecessor King Ahab’s seventy children as well as the priests of Baal.  (Hadn’t Elijah done away with Baal priests already?)  But true to form, here is what 2 Kings 10:30 says:  And the Lord said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel.  Thus blessed by god for his killing, Jehu, without an ounce of scruple, later ordered two or three eunuchs to throw his wife Jezebel out of a window to fall to her death. 

This brief and incomplete list of biblical characters from “the good book” have been offered as spiritual inspiration for countless generations.  Do these bloody tales really exemplify the most exalted way of attracting peace, justice, love, and mercy that is so yearned for in the world?  Do the citizens of the United States really aspire to use these “Bible based” or “Faith Based” examples as our principles of a just government?

Natural Equality

Posted in Atheism, Atheist, belief, Christianity, culture, faith, history, humanity, life, Pantheism, random, religion with tags , , , , , , , , , on August 24, 2009 by chouck017894

Religious pretentiousness has the self-delusional habit of refusing to recognize that humankind is but one species of mammal.  The eagerness to disassociate themselves from our distant relatives has inspired apprehensive men to invent convoluted notions of superiority and then practice that misconception as a religious truth. 

In the practice of organized religions the natural equality of all life is categorically denied—even though it is an equality that is easily proved by the chromosomal elements that all life forms share in common.  And herein is exposed a vital clue in solving the reason for the conflicts and bloody failures of organized religions—especially the western versions of “holy” truth.

Mammals vie for territory: it is the means of self-survival and species continuation.  And that territorial drive is reflected in the human clustering habit practiced as religion which, by extension, accounts for their attempts to impose themselves upon other through proselytizing.  Notions of spiritual exclusiveness are in direct opposition to experiencing life in concert with reason; that is to say, mutual respect.  Instead, all of man’s organized religions choose to concentrate on differences and magnifying them into gross distortions that continually attack and weaken the quality of man’s higher potential.

There have been great minds in the past, however, that have championed a deeper, more bonding understanding of man’s potential.  Unfortunately, wisdom is seen as a threat to a large segment of our species and so they are easily distracted and stampeded by the braying of fools that tell them they have elite status elsewhere.

The insolence and contempt for others that is often practiced today as religious “truth” has much in common with a school of philosophers known as Cynics founded by a  pupil of  Socrates named Antisthenes (144-375?  BCE).  The general attitude of the Cynics was to view everything in the external material world about them with contempt.  The nobler Stoic philosphy developed out of this in Athens around 300 BCE, and was introduced into Rome around 100 BCE by the Stoic philosopher Panaetius of Rhodes.  Panaetius had considerable influence on a literary group in Rome, and through them influenced Roman thought, especially regarding moral duties which served as basis for Cicero’s De Officiis.

Stoicism’s most distinctive aspect was in the attribute that we may evaluate as cosmopolitanism—the  sophisticated understanding that all men are manifestations of one universal spirit.  In that understanding the Stoics stressed living in brotherly love and readily helping one another.  Wealth and rank were recognized by the Stoics as purely external and transient, and therefore such things were regarded as virtually meaningless in social relationships.  Thus stressed was the recognition of the natural equality of all human beings—a wisdom that is sorely lacking in the three militantly organized religions that developed to distort the consciousness of the western world.

Stoicism prevailed widely in the classic Roman world, with metaphysics and pantheistic materialism being part of its ethics.  Material matter was regarded as passive (subject to man’s management) and was distinguished from the cosmic, animating principle that is active as life.  That sustaining energy-link out of that life principle was understood as constituting what religions refer to as ones soul.  The ideal followed by the Stoics was that man’s superiority does not lie in external objects, but exists in the state of ones soul.  Thus living in accordance with reason was expressed in the Stoic’s four cardinal virtues of–wisdom, courage, justice, and temperance.  This  reasonable approach honored in Stoic philosophy played a major role in Roman jurisprudence.

It is a historical fact, therefore, that well before the advent of Christianity, Stoicism accepted life’s unity (or natural equality) and believed in the brotherhood of mana tenet often praised in Christian adherence but haphazardly practiced. 

 That means that unlike Judaism, Christianity or Islam, the Stoics never pretended to be the especial darlings of the creative power.  Untroubled with rationality, Judaism, Christianity and Islam nonchalantly trampled underfoot any genuine thought to Natural Equality.

Party-Line Terrorists in USA

Posted in Atheist, culture, history, humanity, life, politics, random, religion with tags , , , , on August 15, 2009 by chouck017894

Back in the 1920s, with the aid of paid-off police and disgruntled high-ranking officers of the Reichswehr (German army), the German army was drawn upon by the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi) to organize the Sturmabteilungen (SA, “storm troop”) to defend its meetings and to actively disrupt the  meetings of liberal democrats, Socialists, Communists and trade unions.

Today we are seeing similar disruptive tactics being undertaken in the USA now that the Republican Party has become but a shadow of its former self.  In the Nazi Party activity—under Hitler as “unlimited chairman—in the early 1920s much of the party’s propaganda concentrated on denunciations of the “menace” of so-called Bolshevism.  In the USA today the corporate interests, the “unlimited chairmen” in this reenactment who have grown super-wealthy by gouging the public, are actively financing and manipulating the party-liners with poisonous deceits and distractions.  Like the Nazi tactics, the adherents to the radical political right in the US today are being herded into contempt for democratic principles and are being agitated in defense of special interests’ prosperity—not for genuine health care coverage.

Following the onset of the world economic depression in 1929, unemployment increased, foreign trade declined, and agricultural prices dropped—and these events inspired a desire for revolutionary policies.  Large sums of  money were then pumped into the Nazi Party by German millionaire capitalists, just as today corporate bigwigs in the US are pumping multimillions into the propaganda against enactment of a national health care system for all citizens.

As Nazism gained power in Germany, pretexts were concocted to cover violent actions taken against political parties that might stand in the way of Nazi ambitions.  In February 1933 the building that housed the German national Parliament was destroyed by a suspicious fire of incendiary origin—a lucky break for the Nazis.  The Nazis, of course, blamed the Communists, and with brutal violence moved to suppress all Communist principals.  Next to be violently suppressed was the Social Democratic Party.  With these two political factions crushed, all other parties were subsequently outlawed, with the Nazi Party elevated as the only “legal” party, and any attempt to form a new party was declared to be a crime.

Crucial in Nazi ideology was the concept that for the realization of Nazi aims and the creation of “Greater Germany,” the use of intensive propaganda and military force were deemed indispensable instruments of party policy.  (We saw the attempts to wedge the same type policies into US government through the troubling years 2000-2008.)  Very quickly the working class and liberal democratic opposition in Germany found their constitutional and civil rights abolished, and in 1933 the Geheime Staatspolizei (Secret Police), known as the Gestapo, was created to suppress any opposition to the Nazi regime.  The Gestapo was declared not subject to legal restraints and responsible only to Hitler and Heinrich Himmler.

The disruption of Town Hall Discussions by brainwashed, misinformed party-liners on the proposed health care policies in the US will only contribute to a continuation of high-cost medical expenses for all citizens.  Similar as in the Nazi regime game plan, the only real winners in defeating national health care policy for US citizens will be the elite corporate dealers, their industries, and the financial tricksters.  Health care in the United States should not be allowed to remain centralized in corporations that do not hold any true respect or compassion for the quality of human life.

So when you see Town Hall Discussion meetings on health care being disturbed and trashed, ask yourself–Who are the ones that are really imitating Hitler-Nazi anti-democratic conduct.

Radical Right’s Nazi Agenda in USA

Posted in Atheist, belief, Christianity, culture, faith, history, humanity, life, politics, random, religion with tags , , , , , , on August 13, 2009 by chouck017894

Today, August 2009, we see much of the Nazi party’s tactics at work in the United States, and it is not in the Democratic Party’s attempt to bring actual health care benefits to all citizens.  In a truly democratic culture there is freely allowed a civil exchange of ideas on the means of establishing public policies–in this case the need for blanket health care protection for all citizens.  The radical right politicians and radical right religionists, urged on and financed by corporate multibillion bankrolls, are deliberately misleading and manipulating thousands of not-too-bright party-liners in a scenario that has startling similarities to Germany in 1931.

The rise in the 1930s of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party in Germany, as surprising as it may sound, hinged upon the people’s need for spiritual identity that had been brutally savaged by the victorious Christian-dominated nations acting through the League of Nations.  The emotional climate in Germany in that time is given little space in most historical accounts, with historians preferring to dwell on the lurid aspects that crept into society and took root–having been heavily fertilized with lies and deceits to advance sick politics.  Broadly ignored for the most part is the religious undercurrent that fed and shaped the early Nazi movement.

Like all religions, the Nazi code of belief that developed gained support and grew because it at first fondled and gratified the egos of the anguished people.  Bankruptcy of the German Danabank in 1931 resulted in the closure of all German banks—a circumstance that seems to have been the objective of the radical right politicos in the US, and suggests a possible attempt to destabilize the US economy through decades of chipping away at price controls and similar even-playing field regulations.  In Germany back in those critical times the German millionaire Hugenberg actively supported the 800,000 strong Nazi Party, and other wealthy men such as Kirdorf, Thyssen and Schroder quickly followed Hugenberg’s lead: it was all seen to be to their financial benefit.  As in Germany, multibillionaire US corporations and individuals today have actively financed the radical right religionists in the US with the intent of taking control of government by using these factions as a front.  The wealth has not been extended to believers due to any true religious convictions.

The  means of the 1930s National Socialists German Worker’s Party power grab—Nazis—was the instigation of systematic disturbances and encroachment of public discussion—domestic terrorism—just as we are seeing played out today at what are supposed to be public discussions on health care issues, but which are totally nullified by misinformed mob mentality.  As in 1930s Germany, lies are being freely indulged in by those seeking to capsize democratic rule.  The radical right now use Hitler tactics while accusing others of their own disgraceful conduct.  They refuse to pay attention to facts, but choose to listen to propaganda machines being financed by the ones who will truly benefit materially from defeat of a national health care system.  Like Hitler, the corporations and men behind the smear campaign against the health care proposal speak with forked tongues.

The radical  right  politicos and the radical right religionists in the US have apparently taken inspiration from Hitler tactics.  As an example, on April 26, 1933 Hitler said in a speech during negotiations that led into the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933: “Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith…we need believing people.”

Haven’t we in the United States been hearing a variation of this same song being brayed loudly from the radical religious right for at least three decades?

It should be remembered though that as a boy Hitler had been indoctrinated under Catholic guidelines, but his early life had been a dismal failure.  As a result he felt that society and god had failed to answer his needs and he then gravitated to the occult.  Hitler understood the hypocrisy that always infects religious posturing, thus through the 30s, and even during the war, there was an active conspiracy between Hitler’s government and a vast array of European Christian churches.  Thus inspired, the radical right in the US today employ the techniques that brought the Nazi regime to Germany.  Perhaps the radical political right and the radical religious right that conspire to control the people of the US should check how history tends to deal with such fanaticism.  On August 19, 1934 the destruction of Germany was guaranteed—as well as the needless suffering for the rest of the world—with Adolph Hitler’s propaganda taken as truth.

Echoes Through History

Posted in Atheist, Christianity, culture, faith, history, humanity, Middle Ages,, politics, random, religion with tags , , , , on August 9, 2009 by chouck017894

Over the passage of time, history has a way of duplicating events—not exactly the repetition of events but giving forth variations on a plot line with a different setting.

We would hardly think, for example, that recent events in the United States today would have anything in common with the militaristic religiosity that propelled the Crusades of the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries which brought needless distress to Europe and the Near East.  At that time the western powers (hard-line church politics) cast covetous eyes toward Jerusalem, ostensibly as a point of pilgrimage to the alleged tomb of Jesus.  But the Muslim brand of spiritual understanding, although giving recognition to Jesus, did not relish the idea of foreigners overrunning their territory and digging around for a legendary but unconfirmed burial site.  So the Caliph, al-Hakim, called “the mad” in western cultures, barred further pilgrimage passage through the territory.  Christians were whipped up by the pope and priests to wax indignant, hateful and belligerent (as right-wingers in the U.S. are today), and the barring of access to Jerusalem was assessed by the church and Europeans as “persecution.”

Around the year 1090 profound religious fervor permeated all sections of the European population, the Muslim nations were arming themselves, and countries such as France and Germany were impoverished.  Thus in 1095 Pope Urban II exhorted Christendom to take up arms and march to take Jerusalem by force, and the stage was set for seven bloody Crusades stretching over three centuries.

The motivation for the Crusades was always claimed to be religious, of course, but the results just happened to bring wealth and prestige to the church.  This tended to disenchant many gentle Christians who believed that enriching spiritual understanding was supposed to be the foremost function of the church.

As unalike as these time-separated scenarios may seem to be, there are many incidents of today that parallel the Crusade times—not the least of which is the boisterous religiosity that has increasingly infected the governing of the USA through the last few decades.  Add to this that today the Near East region is disenchanted with foreigners overrunning their territory in pursuit of oil to satisfy the high priests of commercialism.

Like the propaganda-inspired Dark Ages crusades where only the high politicos of the Catholic Church gained materially, today the only ones that really gain anything from the bloody and costly intrusion upon  foreign nations are the high priests of corporate commerce.  Let us hope that their lust for material accumulation does not last for over three centuries as did the Crusades.

What is Reality?

Posted in belief, biological traits, culture, environment, humanity, Inspiration, life, naturalism, Pantheism, random with tags , , , , , on August 8, 2009 by chouck017894

Reality is commonly thought of as an event, entity or person that is “actual;” i.e. something that is recognized by our consciousness as existing.  In our passage through this energy field that we think of as “now,” the bulk of what propels and sustains us goes unrecognized.  For example, the amino acids in our bodies, the building blocks of proteins so necessary for life, are also found in stardust.  During the energy process that is the focus of our identity, the true reality encompasses far more than our consciousness may register from its material form.

Science has shown us that atomic and subatomic particles are a reality, but we do not sense them in the day-to-day meaning of the word.  Microscopic life is active everywhere about us—even within us—that we do not sense as reality: we generally become aware of microscopic life only when illness is experienced as a reality.  This shows that what we might call quantum reality is functioning beyond the range of our physical senses.  To illustrate, we hear sound only in the vibratory range only between 32,000-33,000 decibels, and we see energy designations as objects that register only between 450 trillions of red light and 750 trillions of violet light.  The vast gaps that go un-seen by our energy-form are incalculable from our energy-as-matter  perspective.

In our pursuit of matter-life we, as apparent separate beings, never suspect that an excess of 300 million cells of our matter-body “die” every minute—and these are immediately replaced by the division of living cells.  The stomach linings change every five days.  A new skeleton is made every three months.  Every six months the body has regenerated a completely new liver.  Ninety-eight percent of the body’s atoms are replaced in less than a year.  Within a span of seven years every energy arrangement that defined the physical body has been totally replaced.  Even the physical organ of the brain actually changes its structure as a consequence of attention and manipulation.  (So reading this is messing with your brain structure.)

Research into energy medicine reveals that the human body emits 12-gigahertz microwave signals.  A startling finding was that these microwave signals that our bodies emit can actually be received on satellite dishes!  Moreover, the body also emits high frequency x-rays.  Remember that we are speaking of the same energy frequency that goes through dense matter objects unobstructed.  What all this means is that all biological tissue has an electrostatic charge, thus when it moves in the three-dimensional energy range (matter) it creates a measurable electromagnetic field—a personal identity.  And that energy identity radiates into what we speak of as space.

Amid all this creation energy that is continually taking place within the universe of our physical bodies, there is a constant by which we know that everything  is working as a balanced system.  That constant, much like the microwave “background” of the larger universe, is our body temperature.  This built-in thermostat maintains the inner physical climate at an average 98.6 degrees regardless of the heat or cold present in the energy environment around us.  Think of it: our temperature shows that each of us is a functioning reflection of the macrocosm and we therefore maintain our own identity within all planes of cosmic energy. 

So, despite any appearances of separateness, none of us goes unrecognized in the universe.

  • Information in this post was abridged from The Celestial Scriptures, pages 424-425.

 

Unicorns & Satyrs in Scriptures?

Posted in Atheist, belief, Bible, Christianity, culture, faith, history, humanity, life, random, religion with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , on August 7, 2009 by chouck017894

God has revealed in holy scriptures all the wisdom that man needs to know—or so claim the fundamentalists who insist that everything in scripture should be taken literally.  Generally they purposefully ignore a few things scattered through “holy word” that tend to jar the hard-line stance that it is man’s righteous duty to accept biblical teachings without question.  To take everything in the Bible literally means that we should believe in the behemoth, the cockatrice, and dragons, the Leviathan, satyrs, and unicorns.

Think not?  The behemoth is mentioned in the book of Job (40:15-24).  The word comes from Hebrew and is intensive plural, meaning “great beasts.”  The book of Job where this is found happens to have been taken from a Babylonian tale and reworked into Jewish scripture.  It is for that reason that the character of Job never condemns himself for the misfortunes that befall him: he knows that he is innocent—which is not the same thing as being without sin.  The ending of the priest-plagiarized version was altered for Jewish consumption with Job “repenting” and god winning a rather stupid test of character.  Biblical scholars have attempted to get around the mythic “beast” part by saying that possibly the tale was referring to a hippopotamus!  Since the beast remains unexplained it must be placed as a mythological beast.

In the books of Jeremiah and Isaiah there is reference to a creature called cockatrice, an alleged serpent-like living-thing reputed to be hatched from a cock’s egg and having the power of killing with a glance.  It is telling that the cockatrice is mentioned by two major “prophets” who happened to forecast world threatening terror that would at times rampage out of the skies in that era. (See Jeremiah 8:17, and Isaiah 11:8, 14:29, and 59:5.)

Dragons play a role in scripture as symbolic of how one is to be judged and reproved for not measuring up.  Christian mythology inherited the Hebraic concept of the dragon, which is prominent in all the important apocalyptic literature of the Bible.  But the distended dragon role in Revelation seems like a distorted echo of two short closing verses of Isaiah 13:21-22; “…dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.”

Leviathan is a term used in the Bible to designate an enormous scaly monster.  In Psalms 104 and in Isaiah 27, Leviathan is interpreted to mean “whale” because the creature is described in these verses as living in the great wide sea (waters of Creation).  But that is not what is said in much older writings upon which Genesis was crafted: in those ancient texts Yahweh battled with Leviathan, the dragon: a creation myth.  (The tale is reminiscent of Tiamat in Babylonian myths from which came the Old Testament expression T’hom, “deep.”)  Providing for newly created life is the meaning behind the words of Psalms 74 that says: “Thou breakest the heads of Leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.”  Elsewhere, in the book of Job 41:10, “borrowed” from Babylonian literature, the truism is stated that God and Leviathan are as one.

Satyrs are spoken of in the book of Isaiah too (13:21-22), along with the aforementioned mythical dragon and cockatrice.  Satyrs of mythology referred to any class of woodland gods or demons, often depicted with pointed ears, and the short horns and legs of a goat.  What are they doing in the “revealed word of god”?

The fabulous unicorn, as fleshed-out in ancient Greek and Roman myths, supposedly had a body resembling that of a horse, but having a straight horn protruding from its forehead.  It is odd that this creature is spoken of in more than one of the books of the Bible: Numbers (23:22, 24:8), Deuteronomy (33:17), Job (39:9-10), Psalms (22:21, 29:6, 92:10), and Isaiah (34:7).

Funny—none of those creatures were ever mentioned as having been in Eden.